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GRIMM

Where known how related to each other, degree of relationship noted,
otherwise no relationship implied, except to the original Peter Grym.
Information was collected from many sources, some obviously wrong,
and much checking should be done. I'll leave that to you.

In 1508, during the century of the beginning of industrialization in Northwest Europe, Peter Grimm (or Grym) was a burgher of Frankfort am Main. His son Lotz was a watchman at at one of the Frankfort guard towers. They were Hessians -- living in Hesse -- and previous to industrialization, lived in an agrarian society.

[It was in 1517 that Martin Luther rebelled against the Roman Catholic church.]

Another Grimm was a farmer at the end of the 16th century, and they were also bakers, innkeepers and millers. By the 17th century the family had moved into the professional classes.


Friedrich Grimm, 16 October 1672 to 4 April 1748, was a chaplain and inspector of churches for 42 years. His son, also Friedrich, was the minister of the church at Steinau for 47 years.

[The family was Protestant]

Tenth child of the second Friedrich was Philipp Wilhelm, who read law and became the town clerk of Hanau. Philipp, born 19 September 1751 married Dorothy Zimmer who was born 20 November 1755, on 23 February 1783. He died 10 January 1796, when their oldest surviving child was eleven.


First child of Phillip and Dorothea was Friedrich Hermann Georg, 12 December 1783 to 16 March 1784.

Jacob Ludwig Carl was born 4 January 1785 at Hanau (Cassel).

Wilhelm Carl was born 24 February 1859 at Hanau (Cassel), married Henriette Dorothea Wild (Dortchen) 15 May 1825. Four children. [These dates do not tally, but I don't know how to correct.]

[The Brothers Grimm, Jacob and Wilhelm, and Hans Christian Andersen were contemporaries. They met a number of times, in each of their native countries]

Carl Friedrich, 24 April 1787 to 25 May 1852.

Ferdinand Philipp, 18 December 1788 to 6 January 1845.

[French Revolution from 1789 to 1799, when Napoleon overran Europe]

Ludwig Emil (Louis) born 14 March 1790 at Hanau, (Cassel) professional artist, married Marie Bottner 9 August 1803. Two children. Marie died 15 August 1842 and he married Friederike Ernst. [My middle name of Louise is not Ludwiga nor from the Grimm family. I was named after my maternal grandmother, Marie Louise.]

Friedrich, 15 June 1791 to 20 August 1792.

Charlotte Amalie (Lotte) born 10 May 1793, married 2 July 1822, Ludwig Hassenpflug. Six children.

Georg Eduard, 26 July 1794 to 19 April 1795.

[While it is tradition in many Grimm families that they are descended from the famous Grimm Brothers, according to one published book, there are now no descendants of this family group. Any relationship would go back earlier, possibly all the way back to Peter Grimm (Peter Grym) of Frankfort am Main, in 1508.]


Jacob, receiving an invitation from Gottingen University to become a Professor of Philology and librarian and Wilhelm as librarian, the brothers (Wilhelm with family) moved to Gottingen at the end of December 1829.

[Again in 1830, in Paris there was another revolution, the citizenry against the rulers]

The brothers, familiar with many languages, collaborated much but worked separately to different interests. It was Jacob who developed Grimm's Law.

September 1837 was the 100th anniversary of Gottingen University. One of many who came to the city to visit his brothers at the time of celebration was Ludwig, painter and professor at Cassel Academy, who illustrated some of the books for his more world-famous brothers.

Professors working at the university on accepting appointment had sworn an oath to uphold the constitution. The new king repealed the constitution in the autumn of 1837. Seven of these professors, including Jacob and Wilhelm, sent a protest to the king, saying they considered their oath binding. The king dismissed the seven on 11 December. Jacob and three others accused of being ringleaders, were ordered to leave or go to prison. They left, escorted to the border by sympathetic university students.

[The late 1840s were hard times in Germany and there were demands for a written constitution. The king was adamant in refusal until 18 March 1848 when the problem seemed to be resolved between troops and the citizens. Possibly by accident, shots were fired and rioting began with numerous people killed and injured. All classes took part: workers, craftsmen, educators, students and more. Rebellions at that time were sweeping all of Europe]

After hard times financially in exile in Cassel, the King of Prussia invited the brothers to come to Berlin at excellent salary. They accepted, and spent the rest of their days in that city. Among other works in progress for years they began the German dictionary which in many volumes would be finished many decades after their death by others. They had published in their lifetimes only the first volumes, Jacob working on A-B-C and Wilhelm completing D.


Johan Egidius, AKA Gideon or Gitti, was born in Berwangen, Northern Kraichgau region of Germany, of Georg and Anna Maria Grimm in 1700. He arrived in Philadelphia on the ship James Goodwill on 9/11/1728.

His wife was reputed to be a learned woman, composing a hymn on the voyage over, which was used in the Lutheran Hymnal.

He began purchasing land in Weisenberg Township, in the now Berks County of eastern PA. He eventually accrued an estate of about 700 acres. Reportedly, he was friendly with the local Indians, who crossed his lands on their way to the mountains. He died in 1761, leaving his land to his two sons, Heinrich and Jacob. The farmhouse built on his lands in the late 1700s still stands, and is open as a bed and breakfast under the name Grim's Manor.

The second m of Grimm was dropped by his descendants in Pennsylvania, one of whom, Jeffrey Grim contributed this information and the following:

A common misconception was that Johann Conrad Grimm, and Andreas Grimm, who arrived in 1736, were brothers of Johan Egidius Grimm. In fact, you'll find stories online that he was one of seven brothers emigrating to America.

From what I've read, that he was Conrad's brother is definitely not true, as Conrad had different parents, married in 1713. Also, they were not likely Huguenots as reported in some literature, and technically were not even from the Palatinate area of Germany.

Conrad did, however, come from the same town as Egidius, and also settled in this area [of Pennsylvania], so it would be nice to eventually tie them together as related in some way.


Hans, German author.


John Baptist, born in Germany in the 1800s, immigrated to the US at age 19, married Elizabeth Zurlohe in 1894 (?) She died 1908, Oldenburg, IN; Catholic, seven children.


Warren O., a local attorney and former captain in the United States Army who served during World War I with the AEF-Asia in Siberia, was one of three who died 11 November 1919, at Centralia, Washington, USA during the Centralia Massacre which took place while Legionnaires were in a parade. He was a native of Pennsylvania. Three other legionnaires were wounded. A memorial statue to them, The Sentinel was dedicated at a local park in 1924.

[In 1977 another memorial was dedicated by labor union men, some of whose Industrial Workers of the World, IWW, western logger brothers were convicted of the killings after one of their number under arrest was abducted from jail and lynched]


John Francis, son of John Baptist above, born 4 July 1895, Cincinnati, OH, served with the Army Engineers, AEF-Asia, (in Siberia) after Basic Training in the Philippines. Died, Arlington, Washington. Married Edna Anna Palms, three children.

George J, born 6 December 1897, Cincinnati, OH, served with the 31st Infantry, AEF-Asia, (in Siberia) after Basic Training in the Philippines. Died Menlo, Washington. Married Anna Marie Richter 8 June 1926, three children. She was immigrant from Germany in 1921.

Edward, born Cincinnati, OH, served in the US Army World War II. Died in California.

Rose, died preschool age.

Mamie, died preschool age.

Margaret Ann Elizabeth, adopted as Marie Elizabeth Theising after her mother died.

Paul, adopted after his mother died when he was 6 months old. Contact lost.


Anna (Anne) Louise, born 2 March 1927, Menlo, WA, daughter of George J and Anna Marie. Married, three children, divorced.

George Frederick, born 20 May 1930, Menlo, WA, died February 1989, served as Cavalry Corporal in Korean War. Married, two children.

Rose Marie, born 14 November 1932, Menlo, WA. Married, four children, divorced.


It is possible to find a select group of Grimms
across the United States and around the world
if they are licensed Radio Amateurs, or Hams

With a: Grimm search

at the: QRZ Amateur Radio Web site

Or go there by inputting my call sign of KA7TON into:

Quick call sign lookup:


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